tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8343238.post115449427173060077..comments2023-10-11T09:22:33.136-04:00Comments on Paperback Writer: Persuasion 101Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8343238.post-1154641257754466762006-08-03T17:40:00.000-04:002006-08-03T17:40:00.000-04:00Great list! Very imaginative and funny. We are the...Great list! Very imaginative and funny. <BR/><BR/>We are the original horrible parents with no TV or computers allowed in the bedrooms. <BR/><BR/>We have two PCs which are located in a public part of the house and a laptop. My two youngest, 16 and 12 have their own accounts with different age associated restrictions. They also have a time limit. Since they aren't readers they can earn extra computer/game time by reading.<BR/><BR/>Even savy 11 year olds can be lured into bad decisions so my suggestion would be to let her have her own account and to increase her time limit on the current computer. The time limit could vary from weekends to weekdays and she would have to keep up with her chores.<BR/><BR/>Oh yeah, my kids have assigned chores and many of the things she listed as enticements my kids have to do anyway.Sherryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14004621623279973346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8343238.post-1154603757404529232006-08-03T07:15:00.000-04:002006-08-03T07:15:00.000-04:00I'm glad i'm not the only one who thought this sou...I'm glad i'm not the only one who thought this sounded a lot like a list PBW would make.<BR/><BR/>That request would be a hard one to say no to. <BR/><BR/>I guess it all boils down to whether or not you know she'll understand the rules that are laid down and you know she'll follow them.Shiloh Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07785046046157000126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8343238.post-1154554126623796102006-08-02T17:28:00.000-04:002006-08-02T17:28:00.000-04:00We've always allowed our kids online. Just not in...We've always allowed our kids online. Just not in their rooms alone. That goes beyond what we would allow. We have a computer room and we're all in there together, so if there's any problems we are there to help them through it.<BR/><BR/>I don't let them have their own email until they are 12 or 13, when they can handle passwords and know what they can answer and what they should delete. If they need to do any communicating via email it has to go through me.<BR/><BR/>She's making her own website, huh? Pretty cool.Beautiful Food Gardenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00795472519706304749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8343238.post-1154549739511939262006-08-02T16:15:00.000-04:002006-08-02T16:15:00.000-04:00As a parent I can most definitely understand your ...As a parent I can most definitely understand your hesitation. I don't envy your decision.<BR/><BR/>I can't believe she is only 11 years old! That list is hilarious. Very entertaining. LOLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8343238.post-1154544574867454982006-08-02T14:49:00.000-04:002006-08-02T14:49:00.000-04:00Wow. Parenting. What a concept. Not too many pe...Wow. Parenting. What a concept. Not too many people practice it these days. Hence the decline of the empire.<BR/><BR/>But I digress.<BR/><BR/>She sounds like a intelligent and clever little girl. But sometimes not even intelligent and clever little girls get what they want!<BR/><BR/>Sad but true.<BR/><BR/>Donna<BR/><BR/>PS Back to anonymous because I can't remember my log in. :-PAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8343238.post-1154540050742011262006-08-02T13:34:00.000-04:002006-08-02T13:34:00.000-04:00I'd probably discuss the list with her to make sur...I'd probably discuss the list with her to make sure she knew which promises were simply impossible to keep (good for a whole year? Come on.), which ones are simply inappropriate (giving or witholding love), and laugh with her on the truly funny ones (it won't eat you, implying the snake would -- I loved it).<BR/><BR/>Before beginning the discussion, I'd have the following decided:<BR/><BR/>1) Is she at the age where I'm comfortable granting her wish -- she does sound reasonably mature, and she has very practical reasons included in this list. If not, what age? (I had several things I had to wait until I was "18 and living on my own" before I could get/do, and I lived with that. Be careful how you use this one -- I've done or gotten everything I had to wait until that age before I could do -- St Bernards, motorcycles, trucks, probably a few things I've forgotten).<BR/><BR/>2) Do I have the technology available that I know how to use to implement safeguards I feel are important to granting her the privacy wish -- including the way to turn off access as a disciplinary tool if ever needed?<BR/><BR/>3) What level of monitoring is appropriate for her current age and as she gets older? What are the terms for earning more unrestricted access?<BR/><BR/>Once you're comfortable with this in your heart, you'll be able to set the terms (perhaps let her participate in negotiating them -- you might be surprised at what she offers as acceptable--as long as you know what you're willing to let her have) and enforce them. She'll also know what to expect and the consequences for violating them. <BR/><BR/>This is probably preaching to the choir -- you sound as if you work similarly with the kids already.<BR/><BR/>Maybe a 12th birthday wish granting? Would that give time to research and implement safeguards?Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01805501348812702651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8343238.post-1154531191890995682006-08-02T11:06:00.000-04:002006-08-02T11:06:00.000-04:00I'm sixteen, and I have had internet in my room si...I'm sixteen, and I have had internet in my room since I was fifteen--but I never thought to make an awesome list like this.<BR/><BR/>My parents have always made sure that I know how to stay safe on the internet, and my only restrictions are pretty much no chat rooms or talking to people that I don't know. No giving out personal information and no staying locked in my room 24/7.<BR/><BR/>As a graphics designer, I can say that <I>yes</I> personal internet connection is the best thing that can ever happen to your graphics site. Mine has been pushed to the side by schoolwork recently, but I still like to code in my spare time.<BR/><BR/>And the brother bit--totally true. My brother's 13, and just LOVES to be in my business. Fortunately teaching him that I have photoshop and access to the family photos curbed that a bit :) Plus I know HTML and the password to his myspace.<BR/><BR/>But all positives aside, it's defninitely a decision that needs to be made based on how trustworthy your kid is. My brother won't get internet until he moves out.<BR/><BR/>Tell your daughter she's a genius for me and I'm going to try to make one of these lists to get a dog or a cat. She already gave me one, I'll scoop the poop! I can't believe I'm the only one in my house that feels the lack of dog. I keep waiting for her to come running around the corner, and then she doesn't and I have to think, oh, yeah...<BR/><BR/>Now I'm off to use the internet to work on the stupid AP summer work for history I have to do...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8343238.post-1154530976142041282006-08-02T11:02:00.000-04:002006-08-02T11:02:00.000-04:00If you let her do it, set the computer up to where...If you let her do it, set the computer up to where you can see it from the hall and she has to keep the door open.<BR/><BR/>Brother won't be able to bug her nearly as much, and with the door open, she won't be as likely to do anything that she isn't already doing.<BR/><BR/>I fought against my parents about computer stuff for years. They hated RPG games and banned them. I just snuck around and did them at other places. Kids are way sneakier than parents. I think we have to let them do what they want while finding ways to make sure they aren't doing anything dangerous.<BR/><BR/>Good luck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8343238.post-1154530598458953562006-08-02T10:56:00.000-04:002006-08-02T10:56:00.000-04:00I'm fighting the same thing over here, with the sa...I'm fighting the same thing over here, with the same arguements and rebuttals. And they're negotiating for cell phones. I sympathize. <BR/><BR/>How much longer do you think you'll hold out? Mine are taking wagers on me.Eva Galehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08834856467514439544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8343238.post-1154528972170995792006-08-02T10:29:00.000-04:002006-08-02T10:29:00.000-04:00Please thank her for making my day. What a hoot!Please thank her for making my day. What a hoot!Robin Baynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02640632701164428942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8343238.post-1154527882708114862006-08-02T10:11:00.000-04:002006-08-02T10:11:00.000-04:00i was laughing so hard by the time i got to 101!! ...i was laughing so hard by the time i got to 101!! in writing she sounds just like you.Lasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03773883153280321561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8343238.post-1154526252272473912006-08-02T09:44:00.000-04:002006-08-02T09:44:00.000-04:00Haha, she will love you! how can you say no to tha...Haha, she will love you! how can you say no to that?Hannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18416332641505948246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8343238.post-1154526108320431992006-08-02T09:41:00.000-04:002006-08-02T09:41:00.000-04:00I can totally relate to 101, I have a brother, too...I can totally relate to 101, I have a brother, too. :)<BR/><BR/>You already do the most important thing: talk with your kids about what to do on the net and what not. If you use some safeguard for her bedroom computer, still restrict her time and check her activities, where's the problem? The only difference would be that she has her own account her brother can't fiddle with.<BR/><BR/>And hold her to something on the list she says she'll do. Like, 'you do clean the cat litter every day. Internet time still is an hour but you can buy <I>one</I> extra hour/day by also doing the dishes or walking the dog... something like that.' A contract, so to speak. <BR/><BR/>If you haven't done that already, you may also look into the ways pervs sneak into kid chatrooms, and talk to her about spotting these. My nephew (13 at that time) once met some weird guy online but had enough sense to send me an email (his father was absent and his mother knows zero about the internet) asking me if that chat member was indeed weird and what to do about him. We got that guy kicked in no time. :)<BR/><BR/>The important point is that your daughter feels she can trust you not to close the net in case she asks you about online people she thinks are acting strangely (like asking if she's already got boobies), because it is not her fault.<BR/><BR/>My 2 cents :)Gabriele Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17205770868139083575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8343238.post-1154525934401888482006-08-02T09:38:00.000-04:002006-08-02T09:38:00.000-04:0022, 24, and 30 were priceless!Plus, any child will...22, 24, and 30 were priceless!<BR/><BR/>Plus, any child willing to pick up cat poop has got to be serious!<BR/><BR/>Whatever you decide, I'm sure it will be fair, and with her best interest in mind. Just know that you have a hearty congratulations in order when she's old enough to realize what a bright, and clever child you raised.Tami Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18254839673811955144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8343238.post-1154524898098971352006-08-02T09:21:00.000-04:002006-08-02T09:21:00.000-04:0011?Good gosh. Girls used to be married and having ...11?<BR/><BR/>Good gosh. Girls used to be married and having babies at that age years ago (many, of course)<BR/><BR/>Get some good monitoring software (that she can't crack) and set her free.<BR/><BR/>All young girls need to chat endlessly with their friends by 11, either on the phone or online.<BR/><BR/>Mine is 7 and has access (supervised) for 30 minute periods every other day (yes, she keeps meticulous track) and loves the Teletubbies BBC site.<BR/><BR/>Okay, I like it too.PaulDarcyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15722063290961887153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8343238.post-1154524144743925822006-08-02T09:09:00.000-04:002006-08-02T09:09:00.000-04:00"I will even walk my hamster."This nearly killed m..."I will even walk my hamster."<BR/><BR/>This nearly killed me. God love a child with a sense of humor and the drive to go after what she wants in life. <BR/><BR/>Good luck with your decision-making, it never gets any easier I guess.Angela Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03083836635501265476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8343238.post-1154523704999615382006-08-02T09:01:00.000-04:002006-08-02T09:01:00.000-04:00Love #30 She's a smart girl :pLove #30 <BR/><BR/>She's a smart girl :pAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8343238.post-1154523569650949552006-08-02T08:59:00.000-04:002006-08-02T08:59:00.000-04:00My nine-year-old mini-me's computer is adjacent to...My nine-year-old mini-me's computer is adjacent to mine. She's quiet on it (blessed silence) and I can monitor her activities by turning my head. She generally wants to be online when I'm also online or writing. I tell her to go and do something else when I think she's been on there long enough. <BR/><BR/>I wouldn't allow her to be online alone in her room at nine.Monica Jacksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18372996977000788863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8343238.post-1154523423312897302006-08-02T08:57:00.000-04:002006-08-02T08:57:00.000-04:00That's a pretty impressive list.I'm trying to thin...That's a pretty impressive list.<BR/><BR/>I'm trying to think of a compromise here - maybe you could let her have it, but with blocking software, and with the caveat that (since you won't be right there to see what she's doing) you'll be checking the history to see where she's going.<BR/><BR/>Or you could let her have it, but move her computer somewhere else - if there's another place in the house that it could go. (I got my own computer when I was 12, which was hooked up to the internet, but wasn't allowed to have it in my room until I was 16 or so.)Zoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17702478924392188540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8343238.post-1154522756072679512006-08-02T08:45:00.000-04:002006-08-02T08:45:00.000-04:00Sounds like you have a very bright child, who has ...Sounds like you have a very bright child, who has inherited her mother's way of thinking. I'll bet she gets her internet. With the programs that they have now, supervision is still possible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8343238.post-1154521833394165272006-08-02T08:30:00.000-04:002006-08-02T08:30:00.000-04:00Looks like she's your kid. I have a mini-me, too....Looks like she's your kid. I have a mini-me, too.Wendyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11421901072185773752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8343238.post-1154521720832347632006-08-02T08:28:00.000-04:002006-08-02T08:28:00.000-04:00Maybe not a popular perspective, but a lot of thos...Maybe not a popular perspective, but a lot of those "arguments" were ones I used to beg things out of my parents - most of that list is stock begging material (and none of it actually worked). I would promise all sorts of chores and favors, and it was annoying when my parents actually held me to them (though it taught me not to volunteer for things I'm not willing to follow through on). It never really swayed them: I never got a horse, I never got a car, I never got to stay out late, I never got to go to unsupervised parties, and I never got out of mowing the lawn every week.<BR/><BR/>I'll admit that I'm not a parent, but this wouldn't work for me. It's a lot of time and effort that could go into talking with a parent about a "sliding scale" of responsibility. Right now, she gets one hour - maybe start with asking for more time, especially in relation to helping with school work. Or getting more time in exchange for those promised chores. It's the method my parents used with the four of us. We could lay out plans to get what we wanted, but we had to pull our weight, too. And it was gradual, over time, so Mom and Dad were convinced that, yes, we were serious.<BR/><BR/>As I said, though, I'm not a parent, so this is all simply what I plan to do when/if I become a parent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8343238.post-1154520302149552172006-08-02T08:05:00.000-04:002006-08-02T08:05:00.000-04:00I totally agree with Jaye; she does sound like you...I totally agree with Jaye; she does sound like you PBW! And her wit and maturity... *shakes head in awe* I could wish I can write something like that when I was 11. <BR/><BR/>Seriously, she sounds really, really smart. Definitely smart enough for internet. She would probably take over the Internet too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8343238.post-1154518452885471252006-08-02T07:34:00.000-04:002006-08-02T07:34:00.000-04:00We use this for the kid's computer. It's an inter...We use <A HREF="http://www.css-software.com/chaperone/parental-controls/parental-control-software.html" REL="nofollow">this</A> for the kid's computer. It's an internet timer and computer monitoring system. I've looked at a lot of these, and I like this one because of the ease of use and configuration.<BR/><BR/>Good luck--your daughter sounds like quite the negociator!<BR/><BR/>best,<BR/>ljcLisa Cohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07530826748768737972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8343238.post-1154517202082018192006-08-02T07:13:00.000-04:002006-08-02T07:13:00.000-04:00I have a son about your daughter's age who has a c...I have a son about your daughter's age who has a computer that is not 'net-enabled. He's not yet asked for 'net access, but I'd go ahead and put a card in his if:<BR/><BR/>A) I also got Net Nanny software<BR/><BR/>B) Did the timer thing and checked up on him frequently.<BR/><BR/>The other option would be to get him a wireless laptop and insist that he do his surfing in a public area, but I think that's a bit on the extravagant side for a young kid until the price of computers drops a bit more.Noel Lynne Figarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05073804497457422314noreply@blogger.com